just as a previous owner FWIW we talked the other day of my dislikes of the mountaineer but when it came to the extra length, it was well balanced and the TH laminate stock is sweet... That said if these are the two you are deciding on, I just don't see the extra cost for the UL it is a lb lighter and unless you are walking many miles up and down mountains, I just don't see that being a factor. Next is length, well unless you are hunting heavy thickets, you will not notice the difference while hunting, or I didn't.