hi to all, last year i tried using deer insense sticks,(then next morning)where they had been placed -burning- had been torn up something ferice,i never saw it/them got to dark to be able to shoot any longer. but gonna try again this year and hopfully will have better luck.still have couple weeks to go though--long time waiting-ive also tried a grunt call just to get stood up by a buck laying on the other side of the knoll from me -what a bummer.