I have heard they where good, go to chasingame.com, they give an unbiased review of them. I love white flash cams, if you can find one on clearance stealth cams i890 is a really nice white flash cam at a great price, mine is going on its fourth year and has takin tons of great pics. Another one to look at is the covert reveal, it also gets great reviews, I think they are discontinuing it at the moment but thinking about bringing it back. Also check trailcampro.com, I think they give a review also of the scoutguard sg565. Scoot