The real shock is how well that small bullet, going that fast, holds together. Granted mud puddles are not flesh and blood. But if something were going to splatter you would have thought it would have done it there. Yet, I like the almost perfect mushroom they got. Sabotloader for a long time always praised the Speer's ability to hold together. Semisame I believe just proved him right again. That is very good information. Its been a long time since I purchased Speer. How do they compete price wise to the Hornady? Also if you have some Hornady, I would love to see the comparison in a similar test.