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01-08-2013, 03:00 PM

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Champlain Islander

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Join Date: Dec 2004

Location: On an Island in Vermont

Posts: 22,605

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Originally Posted by iamyourhuckleberry

Champlain,

CWD is an interesting topic and one which my contribution would only be speculation. I am not up to speed in this arena. I've heard urine scents are under consideration for the spread of CWD also. I just don't know...

I do know that it is human nature to box things in, for either protection or procurement.

And thanks for the laugh. I was beginning to wonder if eating something was part of the "Fair" equation also. I respect your way of hunting. It is very similar to my grandmother's-until the squirrels started destroying her house.

How is the ice fishing?

I actually have done lots of research on CWD and know that eventually it will probably rear its ugly head here in the state. Our F&W Department has done quite a bit to lower the chance of having CWD introduced like banning the supplemental feeding of deer, banning baiting of deer, suggesting that urine based deer scents are not used or sold, and banning any new captive hunting facilities in state. It is illegal to import any game animal or exotics without a permit. Our state and many others routinely test for CWD on the hunter harvested animals as well as road kills. It is against state law to import a whole animal harvested in a state or Canadian province that has CWD. Game harvested in a CWD location has to be completely deboned and scull plate cleaned before it can be brought into our state. Only the meat, antlers/ scull plate and skin can be brought back to Vt. Looking ahead a post or two I see WNYhunter is trying to stir the pot. Funny thing most people I know from NY are the real deal and pretty smart but I suppose exceptions are out there. The relationship between captive game preserves and CWD are irrefutable. Most of the latest states to have it show were via one of these preserves. WNYH to make a statement that the government introduced it is ludicrous. Based on your post which was difficult at least for me to understand, I can only surmise you are part of a captive game farm, live near one or at least frequent one. Any of these farms should be forced to erect a double fence at least 10 yds apart to eliminate possible nose to nose contact between the captive animals and wild game and to minimize animals being able to enter or escape via a broken fence. Ice fishing is getting better after a slow start. I am usually out there sometime during the 2nd and 3rd week in December right after our ML season ends. This year it was December 29 and the ice on many places isn’t good. It started to catch then we had a big dump of snow which insulates the ice and keeps it thin and erratic. I had a good day today and caught 50 pounds of large perch. When the ice gets better I will be able to take my wheeler out and access some great fishing spots that are difficult to get to by walking. One of the things I really like to do is fish for flat fish…bluegills, sunnies and crappie. All of those spots have bad ice and on normal years those sheltered bays are the first to freeze. It is supposed to get very warm by the end of the week and I hope a bunch of these spots with bad ice will break up and then re-freeze properly when it gets cold next week. Ice fishing keeps this old goat busy during the winter. And Huck…nothing wrong with a few meals of squirrel.

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