Atlasman - You just don' t get it. What you are really saying is that when guys draw special tags, or if they hunt in a state that has big deer (like yours ironically) that the taking of one probably means they are hunting high fences or something like that because hey, if it was as hard as YOUR hunting is you' d be killing those big bucks too. That is what you' re saying, that because you cannot kill big bucks year after year there must be something to it that others do.
Obviously you don' t get it because that is NOT what I am saying at all. This has NOTHING to do with me and what kind of bucks I kill........you make it sound like I am just full of sour grapes because I wish I could kill bigger bucks. If I see a big buck I will kill it, no question.......it is not however the driving force behind my season and if it doesn' t happen I will not lose 1 minutes sleep over it. I will be much more disappointed if I have no meat to eat this year.
You have twisted this discussion into something entirely different then what it actually is to make yourself feel better..........which is why you posted the pics in the first place.......so you could sit back and read everyone tell you how jealous they are of your honey hole.
The deer are great........I have said that.
Drag a 150" + buck out of there and people who know that area will say " good deer" .......because they see them all the time.
Drag a 150" + buck out of most public hunting grounds that have unlimited access to the public and no one " growing" the deer for you and mouths will hit the floor and people will talk about it for 3 counties in each direction.
Why does one deer draw more shock and awe at the truck?? Because a deer like that is only seen one in a blue moon in most places and is the equivalent of winning the state land hunting lottery no matter how hard you worked or got lucky........it just isn' t a common sight. In the other place it IS a common sight so the wide eyes and open mouths at the road are not there because a deer like that being dragged out surprises and shocks no one.
That is my point and my opinion. You keep stressing how I am so wrong. How can my opinion be wrong?? Different then yours maybe.....but that doesn' t mean it' s wrong.
I know the deer aren' t about to jump in your truck and say " kill me" I am not trying to belittle your kill...........I just don' t see how you can sit there and expect people to believe that it isn' t easier to kill a huge buck where you are going then in most places the average Joe gets to hunt. If it wasn' t easier everyone would have a buck like that on the wall. If it is easier then it logically would be less exciting and rewarding.......like climbing to the top of a mountain.........but you started half way up.
Easier because there are more of them ... maybe
Exactly........and anything accomplished easier then the usual ways will not carry the same amount of excitement or pride IMO.
You seem to dislike game farm hunting where guys can drop some money and kill a huge fenced in buck that is grown to be a trophy............the difference between that and your place is there is no fence. If you look at game farms and shake your head wondering how someone could be proud of a deer they took that way..........you should at least understand on some level how your situation can be viewed the same way from the outside...........to a much less extent for sure but the comparisons are not that far off. Deer are grown for racks, hunting pressure minimal, hoss bucks all over the place...................not exactly real life conditions an average hunter sees day to day.
BTW atlasman - what kind of bow do you shoot ?
2003 Bowtech Patriot Single Cam.
Geez, I wonder what you' re getting at??
I should feel less excitement and satisfaction killing a deer with a compound then you get out of killing one with your longbow right??
Thank you for that...............now I KNOW you understand my opinion and most likely share it based on your use of a longbow and dislike of farm hunting. You don' t want to feel like you took the easy road............you do things the old fashioned way.......the hard way if you will. You are just not used to being on the recieving end of a discussion like this.