I know what you mean I haven' t seen a single scrape yet but I heard what sounded like a buck chasing a doe last saturday morning. And i' ve only seen a few rubs, and I know of atleast 7 buck running around on the prperty with 4 of them shooters, hopefully this cold streak will get them going. I saw on another post you hunt around rockview. I coach basketball and baseball in Bellefonte and travel the new bypass that runs truough rockview property and i' ve seen some real nice bucks. I just wish that area was accessible, there would be some nice deer to come out of that property if you could hunt it. Have you ever hunted doe there when they open it up once in a while?