Atlasman - You just don' t get it. What you are really saying is that when guys draw special tags, or if they hunt in a state that has big deer (like yours ironically) that the taking of one probably means they are hunting high fences or something like that because hey, if it was as hard as YOUR hunting is you' d be killing those big bucks too. That is what you' re saying, that because you cannot kill big bucks year after year there must be something to it that others do.

I' ll take my KS hunting ANY day over hunting scrub bucks someplace else. And I' ll say it again ... shooting a mature whitetail ANYWHERE is never easy. Easier because there are more of them ... maybe, but that doesn' t make it EASY in any way, shape or form unless you' re hunting high fences.

slicendice - It doesn' t bother me much really. If I hunt hard all this next week in KS and shoot a 150" deer, I' ve done something IMO. The same weeks hunting in Alabama public land might yield at best a basket rack 8 pointer ... both are trophies, both are something to be proud of , and I' ll probably take the corn fed KS buck evry time if I had a choice ! I like a full freezer, and I like big racks. I can' t help it !

BTW atlasman - what kind of bow do you shoot ?