I havent seen a deer in the stand since gun week in Ohio. There is so much hunting pressure during gun season it drives the deer nocturnal I believe. Almost all gun hunters here do drives and it has a big effect on the deer. Not to mention the rut has tapered off now so bucks are back to their normal patterns. Also the EHD disease put a hurtin on the deer this year. I didn't see nearly as many does even early in the year.