I had a T/C Hawken, I sold it after I bought an Investarm Hawken. The Investarm has much better wood, appeared unfired and was $125 used. It was made in 1985 in Italy, where they make some very nice guns. I would not trade it for a new T/C. Cabelas now sells them as well as Lyman. I don't like their max load tho, it is 90 gr. Pyrodex with a patched RB. T/C was over 100 gr.(110, I think) with the same(15/16") barrel size.