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Old 12-10-2012 | 10:36 AM
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Jim Burns
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Originally Posted by 7.62NATO
You're confusing hard work with predatory hunting. It would take lot of hard work for me to dig a 4'x6'x8'-deep hole, cover it with sticks and leaves, and bait it with corn to catch a deer, but it wouldn't make me a better hunter. So your dogs can chase a bear 15+ miles? What does that have to do with hunting? You may enjoy it, it may be part of your heritage, but I know you aren't walking the 15 miles, and even if you were, you wouldn't be a better hunter for it.

As the OP and a Virginia resident, you should know that it is illegal to bait here. And whether or not it is legal, illegal, or just plain too easy to hunt over a food plot, that really isn't relevant here, is it? Why not? The point of the discussion isn't the ease of a hunt or lack thereof, the point is the intrusivenes of your hunting method. I don't hunt over food plots. As stated, I pretty much only hunt public land. But even if I did hunt food plots, at least my actions wouldn't be invasive. At least my actions wouldn't force others to give up their hunting tactics and adapt to mine. That is what dog hunting does, and i've not heard a single shred of evidence that it doesn't. The only thing I hear is "justification." B.S.

If you want to do it on private property, fine. Keep the dogs on your property. If ya can't, then you shouldn't do it. And while it is legal to deer hunt with dogs on most public land in VA, only an ignorant fool buys the, "It's public land, I have as much right to it as you,' B.S. Yes, it's public land. Yes, you have a right to it, just as much as everyone else. But do you see everyone else taking up the whole frickin' woods with their tactics (same goes to the hooting and holler man drivers)? No, you don't. When a still hunter encounters a stand hunter, he is respectful and tries as best he can to turn back or salvage the stand hunter's hunt. You dog hunters don't. You force your way of hunting on everyone else, leave your dogs behind, let them trespass, and you don't give a crap.

With regard to Sunday hunting, it's just more proof that dog hunters at large are self-absorbed. No offense to Ohboy -- because he genuinely seems like a nice guy with his head on strait. But the dog hunting lobby is the absolute only thing standing in the way of Sunday hunting, under the guise of giving the animals a day of rest. B.S. And everyone knows it.

As for your statement that you would shoot a man who shot one of his dogs trespassing on his property, it's a simple deduction that you are a old, ragged piece of crap. So screw off. No-one is talking about hunting bear anyways, so why don't you post your crap where it's actually relevant.
You guys act like all hound hunters are disrespectful, that is profileing, not all hound hunters tresspass and are buttholes. I respect people and there property and the other hunters in the woods, if I see someone in the area I am going to hunt I will go somewhere else, even if its another hound hunter. I do hunt private as well as public land, the private land I hunt is owned by a timber company which I buy a permit for me, my truck, and my 4 wheelers. This gives me acsess to thousands of acres of private land and allows me to go behind any gate on it with my 4wheelers or walk behind any gate. What I find amusing is every year I run in to people back behind the gates that dont have the required permits (therfore they are tresspassing) and guess what it is never a hound hunter. The hound hunters up there get the nessasary permits to be on the land and also buy a hound permit. I dont know how many times I have run into no tresspassing sighns in these areas that are put up by out of town hunters that are trying to keep people off of property that they dont even premission to be on. There are crooked hunters in all phases of hunting, not just with the houndsmen, most houndsmen I know obey all laws, because they want to keep the previlage of being able to run hounds.
As far as me shooting someone over my dogs, you dam right. I dont tresspass on private property, so if some hunter is on land that I bought a permit to hunt and shoots one of my dogs because it disrupts his hunting, then yeah I have a big problem with that man and he will either see a azz whoping or a bullet, his choice!
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