I used to shoot the first thing that had horns. (I know they are really antlers.) I think I changed when I took my bow during gun season one year. My father-in-law had my rifle and I got to the lease the day before he did so I took my bow. Right at daylight there was a nice ten point in front of me. He was bigger than any deer I had ever killed. If I had my rifle I would have taken him. A little while later something spooked the ten point. It was a huge eight point that had great mass. Then the eight ran off and I could see nothing but horns coming through the brush. It was a monster buck!!![] He had to be close to 180" I counted at least 14 points and he had stickers everywhere. I learned that day in order to see deer like that you had to pass on smaller deer sometimes. Even with a bow I pass small bucks now. I will shoot one if it is late in the season. I believe there is always a big mature buck somewhere close no matter where you hunt. They don' t get big by accident.