Yea i dont know if the 30/30 is much good past 150, it has the trajectory of a rainbow once you get past 100. The 257 roberts is a sweet shooting caliber and the 25 caliber rounds shooting 117 gr bullets is the perfect combo for deer sized game imo. I shot a 25/06 for about 5 years and regret selling it every day. Ammo is easier to find for the 25/06 than the 257 roberts and the 25/06 has more power and range.