RR---Back at ya because just because you say or do something doesn't mean you know squat of what you speak about! After 60 years I HAVE learned lots and that's why I don't do what you espouse! Furthermore, you are in the vast minority of hunters when discussing both of these subjects! Now you're trying to relate a 30-06 to a friggin .223 is laughable at best! No more needs to be said by either of us because we obviously differ severely on both subjects and will just have to agree to disagree! Sorry I haven't been on here for awhile to "discuss" things with you, but I was on an 11 week, three state hunting trip for deer, elk, antelope, and pheasants! Incidentally, the antelope I got made B&C and was shot with my .243 Sako at less than 100 yards when I could have shot him at 600, but don't see any fun in that. What have you been up to lately besides telling everyone on here how far you can shoot and how many deer you've shot?