a 2.5yo can be a big deer here.

a 3.5yo is a big buck

anything 4.5 and older is probably huge around here.

IL.

most guys who take a "big deer" around here is probably 2.5yo. which tends to be a decent 8 or 10pt.

most of these bucks around here will never see 4.5yo, of course there are some roaming, but most guys see a 2.5yo/3.5yo around here and it's going down!