I have been hunting in my friends back yard that overflows into a "community" woods that alot of guys used to sneak into (yeah welcome to LI,ny) they posted it and kicked them out. i am the only one besides a resident in the Community that hunts but he hunts accros the road. there is a HUGE 8pnt in there i got close last year 10yrds away but had no shootin lanes open.. i scoped it out this past winter and his rub lines and where i last saw him come from that day.. I hung a stand in a big oak tree..prob is the rest of the woods i small understory cedars with no places to hang a stand in the spot needed. sat in the new stand on wed.. first cold day in a week.. does passed all around me could not see them as it is hard to see past 10-15yrds.. i have cleared one lane out to 28yrds that leads to a small low/swampy spot.. sunset at 4:33 or so.. by 4:50pm was very QT heard nothing saw nothing..waited till 5:06 dark enough to sneak out not seen.. new rest is a drop away..works great..but if you dont shoot an arrow out of it you have to "snap" it to unrelease it.. i put my gloved finger under it as i released it,,but still it made a small clk sound.. well son of a m...f... 25yrds away in the all cedar trees where the trails are earth and no leaves to give him away he snorts..snorts..runs snorts,, and runs.. away.. i just cant get a break with this one!! i snuck away in total opp direction i would normally leave to get to truck. but he is smart and once learned 10 times smarter..as i learned from last year.. so if you have a drop away rest and need to snap it to take your arrow out.. try this i tried the next day.. pull arrow and twist it ( i have twister vanes) and it came out with out any noise..and re set it at truck.. now******************you know the back ground.. how on earth am i to get ahead of this guy?? in a residental area with no obvious food source (last year only saw him cause friends deer fence was broken and he was in yard in daylight 10yrds away with no shot..heart breaker not a huge buck by you midwesterners but to me a nice 8pnt about 140+) how on earth can i get an edge on him?? please anyone.... thank you...