I hunt in SW Ohio and SE Indiana...I killed a nice 8pt on 11/2 in Dearborn County Indiana...he was making a scrape. I have a piece of property to hunt in Clermont County Ohio....I have seen some small bucks and some does, but that is about it...I am with you....I am not sure what is going on with the rut...I have seen some light chasig from the stand, but nothing that would get you excited...all we can do is go and see what happens!!