you are right about him. i was gonna pull off the place but then i seen he had shown up again so i dont care about a couple hundred bucks in cameras. this isnt the first pics we have of him but i dnt think he is living right there either. i measured him off his ear and if it is 8 inch like most big deer then he is around 170 frame with 10 inch of stickers(4 of them) of course that is guessing his mass and using 4 pics to try and get his beam length which is still a guesstimate but i know how to score and i feel solid that he will push the 180 mark