This one was shot in the same area as the one on my avatar, about a quarter mile away. The avatar buck I killed in 2007 and this is the first buck I've shot since then. There are obviously very strong genetics in our hunting area as every adult buck we see or kill is a main frame 8. We haven't shot a buck with more than 8 points in probably 10 yrs. The avatar buck weighed exactly the same as this one. 176 lbs. dressed and it did have a very long snout.