I have several 15' two man ladder stands, got most of them from Sportsmans guide for less than $100 shipped. Agree, you need two people to set them up. If you have a location that you can leave them, they are great. And all the ones I've had are solid as a rock (I believe its all in how you set them up). FWIW, they aren't really two man stands - unless its an adult and young/smaller kid. I personally prefer the two man over one man, even though we rarely use them with two folks. Just gives some extra room.