Well all I can tell you is what I saw. If I was good enough to double lung like you I suppose I would have a deer. The only thing I thought was weird is that the arrow never came out and there was no blood. Some blood should have dripped when the arrow bumped brush or other things as the deer ran. So all I was wondering if anyone using rages had this happen before. Since the blades expand do they not come out easily if it's not a pass thru?