see, this is what i dont understand. your saying that you know numerous hunters that have quit and ive also heard that there used to be alot more hunters back in the day when the ol timers were around. once the older guys stopped hunting, non of the younger guys took to the sport and to reflect the decline, fewer hunting lisence were sold. yet, every time i come on this board i hear someone whinning about how there are too many hunters and they cant get a decent size buck and they have no where to hunt. i think its a bunch of crap. PA has millions of acres of state game land...millions..!!! i gaurantee you i could put you next to a tree where you wont see another person, hear another person, hear a car, smell a fire place, hear a dog bark for weeks! i think the problem is that the typical hunter is lazy and wants to be able to go out in thier front yard and kill a deer.