Jay- I agree with you. But fortunately I believe they are seeing the error of their ways. And the hunters are wising up. Yeah, you still have the meat hunters that buy as many tags as they can and shoot as many deer as they can just to say they did so. But most of the concerned hunters although buying the tags are not filling them. I am seeing the numbers come up in my area. For instance last year I saw one deer all of archery season. And he ended up in my freezer and his rack on my wall. This year I've seen some monster buck on camera, and this archery season (about 4 outingss so far) I've already seen 3 legal buck and 3 doe hunting the same area(s) as last year.