Ok... Here is my update.... gone out 6 times now... I seen an 8 point and a 4 point... The 8 never came into my comfort range(within 40 yards)... The 4 however wont stay away from me... I mean I tried to call the 8 into range and the 4 ran up to 10 yards of my stand and I wouldn't have had a chance to even draw on it if it came because of that dang 4 pointer... I have seen a lot of does and I will take one... I had two small does come close but I wanted the third one who i would guess is the mama to come closer but she didn't... I am getting tired of that 4 pointer to be sure...lol He just keeps coming in.........