The deer in the last pic looks 4.5 to me the 8 that's with him.is getting a free pass this year I think he will make it. I haven't seen the 10 in person yet or even started hunting him yet. At first I was thinking he was2.5 in the summer pictures now I'm not sure. And this buck and the other 8 are both on about 40 acres behind the house l. He is the reason I was so upset about the trespasser