Secondchance, I hunted about two miles from Garden of the Gods about three years ago for shotgun season. Only saw one deer between the two of us, a 7 point that I took out. Thats horrible to hear about down there, great area and with the hunting pressure it gets for gun season, they really could use every deer they can down there! I saw camps that look like they had 8 to 10 guys and only had 2 to 4 hanging after the first two days of the season. Hopefully the population will bounce back quick. I know the area I'm going to be hunting this fall had a lot of water sources that didn't dry up so I'm hoping the deer didn't have to congragate too much.