Of all people, it is my Bro-in-law! Yah, I guess he just has a little spare time at work watching all those big buck at the plant walk by. Mike, had a shot on a 4 point sunday morning, 10 yards, it had the weirdest rack i have ever seen. It looked like it was actually going to be an elk instead of a deer. Its spikes pointed backwards a litte, and his forks kind of went out and up. Really wierd. Did you get your buck yet? Welcome to the board by the way.