here in Texas we hunt feeders and use box blinds, some of the set ups i hunt are a mere 50 yds to the feeder. I feel stupid using my 7-08 in these circumstances, i use my 22 hornet on those times. In fact i use it more than my 7. very rarely do i use the 7-08 but i do and it has its place. 50 yds to a deer or hog with its head buried in a pile of corn aint one.