Mauser, I' m glad your a die hard hunter But I don' t agree with you when you say people that start hunting when they' re 15 or 16 only do it for the kill. Thats completely not true. I' m 16 and only started last year. I go out every chance I get, no matter what the weather is like. Sure, its nice to get a kill, but I can be just as happy leaving the woods empty handed. Unlike what you said, I definetly enjoy the peace and quiet from being out in the woods, usually all alone. [:-]