I used to live in 5C until about 5 months ago. Plenty of deer there, you just can't get at them. It takes a couple of really big deer to fill a freezer. I bone it all out and grind a lot. Even with a head shot an 80-90 pound deer probably only leaves 40-45 pounds of meat. I try to shoot at least 3 every year, and I don't try to pawn it off on other people. I pick up road kill too, if it is not hit hard. I have lousy places to hunt. Nobody wants to hunt there, until they find out you are killing deer. Won't do them any good. Timing is everything. Best time to kill deer in populated areas is between 11:00 AM to 3:00 PM. I shot 3 doe last year (2 at same spot) and could have shot more. I don't know how many different buck I saw, but could not get a safe shot. (Could not bow hunt last year) Most of you would not believe the lousy spots I hunt and kill deer. I was the same way a couple years back, I would not change hunting areas or methods. If you want sit around and whine about no deer you are just going to be screwed.