lol @ mohunter09... ppl like you actually make me lol. "A real hunter" hah. You have no clue who I am or what I am all about and what I do for the sport of hunting that “real hunters” love. I hunt all over the east coast and mid-west every year. Normally around 4 states a year. I hunt public land; knock on doors, on a club lease in pa, and last year I purchased three farms in Ohio. I do whatever I can to be out there enjoying what I love to do the most which is chasing after whitetail deer. Yes I lease yes I paid for a hunt (which was at an unbeatable price and I had the time and money so I hopped on it). If you haven’t notice people are going to lease properties no matter what and that’s not going to change. And leases pretty much fill up as soon as they hit the market. So as an avid hunter and a hard working man that works two jobs so I can hunt as much as I want and where I want, I hop on a good deal when I see one. I also designed a program this year to introduce underprivileged and handicap kids into hunting on my farms in Ohio which I busted my balls to gain sponsors donations and put together a huge fundraiser to cover equipment, license, lodging, food , trans, ect. . So please refrain yourself and do not let your ignorance get in the way of deeming other people of ruining the sport or giving it a bad rap. Its people like you that give the sport a bad rap pointing out what is right and what is wrong about the way to go about hunting. Just keep you confused mouth shut if you are just going to hate. A forum like this is for advice and for us hunters to come together as one. Not to throw out accusations that u have no clue about. If knocking on doors is working great for you then that is Awesome! Why are you on here bitching about people paying to hunt then, because intern you are just going to make it harder for yourself if everyone does what u do? I’m not trying to toot my own horn or say that I am the best,(because I defiantly am not) but nothing I do is illegal unethical or wrong. I just want to be out there, and it baffles me how someone can be so negative about wanting to do that. So mohunter09 have a safe hunting season and try to put in perspective on why we are all out there this year when you’re sitting in your stand. Because to me it’s about experiencing whitetails everywhere no matter how I make it happen. Ill see you in the big MO next year because I believe that will be my next destination to try to nab a big bone head.