I also had a point to make about scenting in the early archery season. As I relayed in the above post I am cheap and will go about a successfull solution after finding out a way to do it at a low cost. I keep the urine from the last years hunt in the freezer or buy after the season is over at Wally world in the discount bin. I found out along time ago that a buck will key on a scent which to him is not too old. I rinse out a soda can and cut a little access door in the side to put a tea candle in. I then put a cotton ball soaked in urine or scent over the top of the can. This can be done with a piece of copper wire or whatever you have or hang the cotten ball from a string as most people do. Just make sure the small amount of heat is under the cotton ball. I have shot deer with their nose in the can several times. The warming urine attracts the deer much quicker. This mimicks the THERMOSCENT at a near zero cost and is most effective. The tea candle should be plain wax and will burn for 6 hours. Rowmin Goat......