Is that so? Good to know. If I want a turkey fan that looks dirty and ratty like the one you posted then I will take your advice. Until then I will continue to do it my way. Borax does not preserve fat, so any fat you leave will be nasty. The more you leave the nastier it will get. Same goes for meat. The feathers in the pic I posted are not loose, they are all connected by skin. That is all that should be left...skin. The skin is treated with borax and the feathers are allowed to dry, or bondoed if you are impatient. This is what feathers can look like when cared for properly, cleaned, and groomed.