thanks , however i' m not using a shotgun , i' m using a .22 hornet as i want to get the bird mounted as well as get the meat . i' ve heard that you should not shoot them in the breast which makes a lot of sense in keeping the meat so , where would anybody here recomend shooting them ( i would like to have it mounted so i don' t really want to try a headshot , especially with a .22 hornet on a small moving target like it' s head ) thanks guys