I have been using my Lone Wolf alpha hand climer for a very long time. I love it! up and down tree fast and ezy. the only thing i do not like about it is the seat. I am still looking for a way to attach it to the tree so i can flip it up when i stand without the seat falling down or me havign to gently/QT lowering it down to rest on the back side of the tree. I have been thinking of purchasing the sit and climb seat but looks alil bulky?? Other than that i love my wolf stand!!!