My son got an 8 point his first year but up our way we usally take what ever comes out first and that was the first buck we saw that day .This year it was doe and buck on the first day we got two does the first day we have four kids we just like to put meat in the freezer and i let the boys shoot first i love to watch them get excited. Im proud of them no matter what happens just glad they are willing to go with me and get off the video games and computer. P.S. take a youngster hunting keep hunting alive<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>