Well U can describe the state shoot at least the day time part as 'BRUTAL'. It was windy, water stained, full clouds and no fish. At 6pm for the dinner most of the 14 teams that came in had a few common. We headed out after dinner and at 11pm the troller died and we were done. Bill got one shot at a gar, I did not see any to shoot at, but do not know what if we did not post our first DNF.