I love the Lone Wolf. I have the alpha hang-on with 3 climbing sticks and I can get 15 - 18 feet if I space ' em out right. I also have the Lone Wolf Alpha climber that I got this year and I absolutely love it and use it almost exclusively (probably ' cause it' s still new!) But I used the hang-on for 5 years and filled many a deer tag while in it. It' s great for trees with branches or bent trees, pine trees, etc, locks on rock-solid, and is easy and quiet to set up. The guys at Lone Wolf are great to deal with (met them at Northeastern Sportsman show) and would help you out any time.