Your bending 2514' s ? those things are like electrical conduit . Try pulling them strait out . I have to agree with range about the carbons . I got some 6075 terinator hunters about 5 months ago and they shot great , but , the more I shoot them the worse the groups get . Looks like I' m back to alluminum as I dont have time to mess with trying to get acc' s tuned to my bow and I' m familiar with the alluminum shafts I allready have . Man right before season and I' m haveing to switch things around .