I have an Excal Vortex and love it. I shoot the GT Lazer II's with brass inserts and 4" Vanetechs & aluminum caps. It is one bad hombre, let me tell you. I shot a deer last archery season and it put a golfball size entry wound, deflected of the inside of the rib cage and basically unzipped it. Had about a 18" long exit wound! never seen ANYTHING like it. Deer was 80% fielddressed from the shot! BTW - it was about 40yard shot. My personal max limit with any bow. The deer still somehow managed to make it a couple hundred yards, even though it wasn't pushed.