I have both the 1187 supermag and the 870 supermag. In the 1187, a mad max choke. I use to shoot win ext range 5's in 3". Went to magnum blend 5,6,7's to try somethin else. Pretty impressed. The 870 has a jellyhead in it. I shot magnum blends out of that. Not as impressed. But stillI dead turkey. Shot ext range 5's, 3". Not bad at all. Dead birds both guns to 50 yds either way. But definitely different animals. But im also a 40 and under type of dude. If ya wanna go cheaper I have shot basic 3" 5's winchester. They shot pretty decent to 40 yds. Goodluck to ya. Just mess around with different combos.