Thanks for some ideas.. I have it set up on a trail that is mostly used a little later on in the year. The moose and deer both use it during our warmer summer months mostly and maybe that is why?? The big buck in there runs when ever it comes to any sort of opening? I have no idea as to why that is. I am thinking that is why it is big and I am hoping this stuff will bring him around as I really want to get a decent look at him. I hunted him last fall and never got to lay eyes on him just his tracks. I did find all his scrapes so I am hoping next fall will be a better hunt for him. For now I am just anxious to see what the heck he looks like.