If you read my post on reloading 7mm RM and 7mm-08 Rem youll see my scoop on berger. i like berger and used to shoot them alot. I have a remington rifle i built(and still building some) it is button rifled most remington production barrels are. i used to shoot the 168gr hunting vld. ive shot 3 or 4 with them but one time stands out. i shot a doe on the power lines @ 211. i hit her exactly where i wanted in the high shoulder she went to the ground and didnt kick one time. that shot left the biggest damn hole id seen a 7 mag cut. bottom line is i like berger, i like now hornady for accuracy better and ill see about the hole the A max leaves in a deer this fall. go ahead try berger they are great. great accuracy great flight great expansion. but if not loaded right they are not as forgiving as others.