Originally Posted by
Topgun 3006
Sir, anyone that says the 357 beats a 30-30 is full of baloney and needs to go back to ballistics 101. The 357 doesn't even have 1000 ft./lbs of energy at the muzzle and that's been the accepted minimum on deer at POI by most experts for decades. The 30-30 has taken more deer than any other cartridge and that's fact, not fiction, with the 30-06 a close second. A 357 revolver may take a deer at 50 yards, but is marginal past that and with a rifle I would still hold my shots to under 100 yards and make it a broadside shot. There are 5 or 6 30-30 hunting bullets that still have between 965 and 1080 ft./lbs. of energy left at 200 yards. There is no 357 that even comes close to that! If a guy buys that caliber in a rifle just to save a few bucks on a box of ammo, when the revolver ammo shouldn't even be what he's using to hunt deer in the first place, his thinking is way off base IMO!
sir you are full of balogna. 18 inch barrels 357(which is what this is all about a rifle not a pistol)
rem 125 grain jhp 2038ft/s with 1153 ft/lb of energy
now for all guys that say a 357 wont kill deer at 100yds you are wrong. it has plenty to kill them at that distance. if you dont think so you need to re-evaluate.
is it the best 100 yd cartridge? that is up for debate. but i wont sit here and let all of you bash this guy because he wants to save a bit. it is not gonna affect you one bit. he has stated he takes only ethical shots and his choice in a rifle will be just fine as long as he sticks to taking ethical shots.
james jordan (jordan buck) was killed with a 25-20. we dont know for sure the bullet weight but for a 75grain 1877ft/s with 587ft/lbs of energy.
if this doesnt say enough then concider all the deer that control shooters kill with 22's every year