Well I have shot a lot of deer,boar and bear usually between 20 and 50 yds with 250 and 200grain Shock Waves and never had a problem but after reading some of the stuff people have put on the forum I switched to the bonded just for hunting the shoot exactly the same both group and POI and I have complete confidence in them and the 250 grain Deep Curl.I have had excellent results with the 185,200and 250 grain Lehigh also, and would use the 275 Lehigh on bigger game.