I have both the triumph and the mountaineer. Both are very nice . I would take the mountaineer. Of the individuals who have both it seems the Mountaineer comes in first. People who only have a Triumph have no basis of comparison, they can only recommend the triumph. Then there are the others who have neither and still recommend one . That's interesting. I guess the choice would be made based on which company the person dislikes the most or on comments made by others but not based on experience.