Thanks everyone. Both boys did start with the pellet guns. Play havoc with the sparrows when we visit my dad on his farm in Iowa. My stepson went out hunting a few times with me and his grandpa last fall but no luck. He and I put a good stalk on a 4x4 whitetail the last evening of season but finally got too dark before he felt he was close enough for a shot. Hopefully both he and my son can get a deer next year.