Originally Posted by Rob in VT

Thanks for all the replies everyone!

7.62, that is a very indept post you wrote, thank you. I have been using climbers for years. I have an old API Grand Slam. Looking for a lighter, quieter stand. I can relate to everything that you have posted. The main purpose of my climber is to hunt a couple of farms in Illinois. These are all day sits as bucks can come by anytime during the day. It is usually a bad idea to still hunt these properties as you can easily blow deer off the farm onto the neighbors properies. Best to sit quietly in a good location from dawn to dusk.

I am considering the Goliath because it has 2" more width than the Viper and is only $20 more.