I could help you with some good grouse dog gsps sproul. NAVHDA people who stand behind what they offer.
JW
thanks.i am going to get a hunt with one of top trainers in my area of pa.,if i get over this cold.
he has GSP,SETTER,MUSTERLANDER.all 3 i will see in woods and his opinion on what he thinks i should get .
i hoping he will train whatever one i get but may not.
toby is just 9 yrs old so not sure if i am ready yet.
labs are my dog of choice but if i want to get grouse, i have got to change from lab .
i still have plans to always have lab in future but at 58 ,i am no young pup anymore.
soooooooooo,thats where i am at.
if labs would not tire out so quick ,i would just get another one but i have come to conclusion,to hunt grouse woods here in pa, LAB CANT DO WHAT POINTERS CAN .