I started my daughter with a Ruger ultra-light in 243 with reduced 80 gr Hornady sst loads she has done very well with these she started hunting at 9 and is now 13 3 good bucks and 4 does and several coyotes and is always willing to go to our range my motto start them young and keep them shooting she will be a starter on the high school trap team next year and I couldnt be more proud